tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post3308899031197172071..comments2024-03-06T04:35:38.806-06:00Comments on Disaffected and it Feels So Good: Conservatives love when Cops kill Black PeopleGrung_e_Genehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-77570661073917594592014-11-29T11:51:33.993-06:002014-11-29T11:51:33.993-06:00There's many levels of shame at work here.
C...There's many levels of shame at work here. <br /><br />Conseravitves will always support the use of force against minorities and leftists under the rubric of the Respect for Authority and Rule of Law. <br /><br />But, when the Authority is a Democratic or Liberal conservatives ignore the law, disrespect authority and obliquely reference "2nd Amendment Remedies" and 'Watering the Tree of Liberty'.<br /><br />Thus, Conservatives rallied to this killing because they support Wilson's actions by proxy, in the same way they supported Zimmerman's killing of Trayvon Martin.<br /><br />But, that also holds a key divergence. Zimmerman had no authority to follow, confront and ultimately kill Trayvon, Wilson did have authority to confront Brown and arrest him.<br /><br />But, what Wilson did was conduct the ultimate sezuire under the 4th Amendment. And that's where several inconsistencies and problems arise.<br /><br />It's been shown that the Grand Jurors were told Wilson had the right to kill Brown under Missouri Law about fleeling Felony Suspects, but they Prosecutors were incorrect.<br /><br />The 1985 Tennesse v. Garner SCOTUS rulinng, dictates a fleeing suspect can not be killed by Police unless he poses a deadly threart.<br /><br />And this is when Wilson's testimony as justification and the reasonable man standards come into play.<br /><br />Brown was a suspect in a crime. Did Wilson pursue the investigation and the confrontation poorly. To me it appears so. I never speak with regular citizens while seated on my ass, let alone confront a large suspect while sitting in a squad car.<br /><br />After the intial fight and shots fired, Wilson's perception was he was in fear of his life. And that's the big problem would an outside <i>reasonable</i> observer faced with similar facts have concluded the same.<br /><br />I don't. I think Wilson caught in the fight/flight cycle couldn't escape the tunnel vision and base brain instincts and apparently lacking training and poise couldn't evaluate the situation properly which thus ended up meaning death for Brown.<br /><br />But, we'll never know what Brown's final actions were in a meta-truth kind of way. Dead men tell no tales.<br /><br />So, if Brown was "bulking up" to charge Wilson, turning to surrender or in a haze of pain and fear while dying will forever be lost.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-79254899860200494822014-11-28T20:42:22.188-06:002014-11-28T20:42:22.188-06:00This ridiculous grand jury was a travesty. Here...This ridiculous grand jury was a travesty. Here's what I don't get. Where are the Feds? This just seems so much like the Rodney King case, except, no video. <br />http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/18/us/los-angeles-riots-fast-facts/<br />A grand jury refused to indict the police and then a FEDERAL GRAND JURY had to be convened. Then finally, there were indictments.<br />Perhaps a civil suit is in the works, maybe then the Brown family may get some sort of justice. @ Fringe yes, indeed you are so right about the other aspects of keeping down the progressive/democrat vote. Also there is the appalling aspect of literally highway robbery if you are unfortunate enough to be stopped for a violation. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/<br />You could literally be robbed blind, by cops on the take, although I am sure that's been going on for a long time. Thanks for your excellent post Gene, welcome back, we need your voice. Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17885426575922045330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-3999812563697223082014-11-28T13:31:25.786-06:002014-11-28T13:31:25.786-06:002 things. I truly believe that many politicians a...2 things. I truly believe that many politicians and cops know that arresting blacks and hispanics can make them ineligible to vote (in many states) and this is a worked on goal. The reason I believe it is a cops wife was laughing about it at the little league game, pretty sure she heard it from hubby or one of their cop friends.<br />A police record doesn't do them any good when looking for work or applying for bank loans either.the yellow fringehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00003652058436636394noreply@blogger.com