tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post2262435364956110377..comments2024-03-06T04:35:38.806-06:00Comments on Disaffected and it Feels So Good: Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Pro Pedophila and Child Rape AdvocateGrung_e_Genehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-21744803753565734982013-12-30T22:16:30.685-06:002013-12-30T22:16:30.685-06:00Hey Gene,
Since you want to get hung up over defi...Hey Gene,<br /><br />Since you want to get hung up over definitions how about reading this one. It's not straight out of the DSM but pretty close.<br /><br /><i>As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia (USA spelling) or paedophilia (British spelling) is a psychiatric disorder in persons 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest toward prepubescent children (generally age 11 years or younger, though specific diagnostic criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13). An adolescent who is 16 years of age or older must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.</i><br /><br />Illinois and Arkansas law may differ but the DSM is recognized nation wide. You may not like Phil but he is not at all guilty of pedophilia. ChickenHammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228053200668293249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-4855621937517290342013-12-30T14:11:08.703-06:002013-12-30T14:11:08.703-06:00Nan,
I accept your reasoning but, quite technical...Nan,<br /><br />I accept your reasoning but, quite technically and legally here in Illinois the definition of child is someone under 17 years of age when it comes to sexual consent. (720 ILCS 5/11-6)<br /><br />(a) A person of the age of 17 years and upwards commits the offense of indecent solicitation of<br />a child if the person, with the intent that the offense of aggravated criminal sexual assault, criminal sexual assault, predatory criminal sexual assault of a child, or aggravated criminal sexual abuse be committed, knowingly solicits a child or one whom he or she believes to be a child to perform an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct as defined in Section 12-12 of this Code.<br /><br />(b) Definitions. As used in this Section:<br /><br />"Solicit" means to command, authorize, urge, incite, request, or advise another to perform an act by any means including, but not limited to, in person, over the phone, in writing, by computer, or by advertisement of any<br />kind.<br /><br />"Child" means a person under 17 years of age.<br /><br />Yes, yes, yes, I know and accept that age laws can be considered arbitrary but as an LEO, I don't make that decision. So, I am not redefining pedophilia capriciously.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-46453115919890281292013-12-30T13:07:29.259-06:002013-12-30T13:07:29.259-06:00Sloppy language annoys the crap out of me regardle...Sloppy language annoys the crap out of me regardless of which side of the political spectrum is doing it. You don't like Phil Robertson (neither do I, for that matter) so you want to redefine pedophilia. Pedophiliacs are attracted to children who have not yet reached puberty. Two teenagers getting married doesn't qualify as pedophilia, and the fact Phil thinks that because it getting married worked for him it'll work for other teens (1 Corinthians 7:9) might be rooted in his bible-thumping background, but it's not perverted. Just stupid. And pointing out he's being stupid is not exactly a ringing endorsement of Robertson, nor is it a sweeping endorsement of hillbilly culture. Nanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18359007443116549436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-39254079748072953432013-12-30T10:16:47.818-06:002013-12-30T10:16:47.818-06:00Perhaps Nan, but your argument sounds (to me) like...Perhaps Nan, but your argument sounds (to me) like a 'That's there culture' defense.<br /><br />Kulkuri, <br />I am receptive to your argument that by giving this knuckle-dragging troglodyte airtime you empower him otoh, by highlighting his beliefs we can draw out the Republicans running for office who will enact putrid inhuman policies. Like, comparing Robertson to Rosa Parks.<br /><br />Oh who am I kidding the entire Rape-publican party is a hive of oppression, subjugation and adulation of the rich.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-262200301203828282013-12-30T09:43:34.466-06:002013-12-30T09:43:34.466-06:00I think both sides are making way too much noise a...I think both sides are making way too much noise about what this man has said. Some are condemning him for what he has said and others are leaping to his defense (like Palin who didn't even bother to read what he said) claiming he is being persecuted for his religion and being denied his "Freedom of Speech". The fact is he said some stupid stuff and even tho he believes what he said, that doesn't make it any less stupid. Let's just move on or we'll end up making him another Sarah Palin (can we all ignore the shit she says already!!) or Joe the Plumber (who wasn't Joe or a plumber!!)Kulkurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09198195648066700925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-88042927687620428672013-12-30T07:36:05.032-06:002013-12-30T07:36:05.032-06:00Of course Phil thinks girls should get married at ...Of course Phil thinks girls should get married at 15 or 16. Miss Kay was 16 when he married her. They've been married for 50 years. That's fairly simple math -- he's 67 now, so he was 17. Much as I would love to criticize Phil, what he's advocating is that other young people do the same thing he and his wife did: marry young. It's stupid, because it's a highly simplistic view of the world (i.e., he's thinking that because it worked for him and Kay it's good for everyone), but it's not pedophilia. Nanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18359007443116549436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-2049555367630965252013-12-30T00:31:38.596-06:002013-12-30T00:31:38.596-06:00That clip from Freakout Nation is a classic examp...That clip from <i>Freakout Nation</i> is a classic example of the fallacy of pulling a short segment from a larger video to make a false point.<br /><br />Phil does not exhibit symptoms of pediophilia, homophobia, or racism in real time when viewed in context.ChickenHammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228053200668293249noreply@blogger.com