tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post6934987611048806725..comments2024-03-06T04:35:38.806-06:00Comments on Disaffected and it Feels So Good: A Landslide Victory for President Barack Obama. This is a Center-Left Nation.Grung_e_Genehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-42680865829781132592012-11-08T15:04:53.970-06:002012-11-08T15:04:53.970-06:00Yes, LBJ's spending was huge. But, so was Reag...Yes, LBJ's spending was huge. But, so was Reagan's spending. It's just we have to decide what we are going to spend upon and who gets stuck with the tab. <br /><br />As for what Obama blew he stepped into a bad situation. Bush spent a large amount of the money that Obama got stuck with the bill for...<br /><br />Was the Stimulus a waste? I don't think so. Harper's has a piece on what the stimulus did for infrastructure.<br /><br /> The Housing Bubble effects are still being felt we have millions of vacant homes and there is no recovery to be had from new homes being built. Also, while previous Presidents could look to manufacturing here in America for a employment recovery that's been gutted over the last 30 years as well.<br /><br />The Rich have had a very easy time of it this last decade. Their share of national wealth has gone up. They hold majority of all the assets in the nation. <br /><br />There hasn't been shared sacrifice since 9/11. And now we are facing the effects of not having fiscal sanity while funding a 12 year plus adventure in Afghanistan, decades long involvement in KFOR, continued presence in HOA, and the 7 year debacle in Iraq. Plus, the accompanied costs of the bases still maintained in Italy, Germany, England, Okinawa...<br /><br />I'm addressing this in my next post and I'd like your input once I publish it tonight or tomorrow. <br /><br />Partisan rancor is inevitable, but the divide isn't liberal/conservative it's Super Rich and everybody else.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-66908789047964855722012-11-08T13:46:42.989-06:002012-11-08T13:46:42.989-06:00Gene,
Every president and government is saddled ...Gene, <br /><br />Every president and government is saddled with previous decisions. By your same rules, I blame Bush's spending on FDR and LBJ.<br /><br />Obama blew more money than any other president. Face it. It's a verifiable fact.<br /><br />Please take some time and download the spreadsheets from this website:<br /><br />http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals<br /><br />non-discretionary entitlement spending dwarfs defense, but please don't take my word for it, go look for yourself.<br /><br />I agree with you that we need to stop all these interventions and get the hell out of Afghanistan as quickly as possible.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-9299424672548949222012-11-08T08:41:07.524-06:002012-11-08T08:41:07.524-06:00It's always been my contention that the two m...It's always been my contention that the two major drivers of the massive increase in the deficit have been the lowering of the tax rates and the increase in DoD spending.<br /><br />Both of these go back 30 and 60 years respectively.<br /><br />The money that came on Obama tab was spent by previous President's and Congresses.<br /><br />I just threw out $500 Billion because it's perhaps half the DoD budget. The official DoD budget for FY2013 is <b>$614 Billion</b>. For 2013-2017 the official expedniture is expected to be <b>$3 Trillion</b>.<br /><br />If we want a Military and Foreign Empire someone is going to have to pay for it. The Rich want the Poor to pay for it and they're going to get it.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-40193040263060823902012-11-08T07:49:09.271-06:002012-11-08T07:49:09.271-06:00Bush comes in for blame, I have said it often myse...Bush comes in for blame, I have said it often myself, but lets keep the numbers straight.<br /><br />Obama blew more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.<br /><br />Having said that, it is a bipartisan issue and my prediction is they do nothing to address it. The craven GOP will go Forward into the abyss with Obama.<br /><br />Also, do you have some strategic study which suggests a $500 billion cut to DoD.<br /><br />We both agree waste needs to be cut, but I think we also agree we need to maintain defense and deterrence.<br /><br />So where does the $500 billion come from?Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-86050252014820442382012-11-07T21:38:40.953-06:002012-11-07T21:38:40.953-06:00SF,
We need to cut spending. But, any budget whi...SF, <br /><br />We need to cut spending. But, any budget which doesn't cut $500 Billion a year from the DoD isn't a serious effort at Deficit Reduction.<br /><br />But, the mega explosion of Debt lies at the feet of George W. Bush. His DoD gluttony is responsible for a majority of the Debt. <br /><br />It is a bipartisan effort. And I think what many conservatives allowed themselves to believe was that their Blame Barack Campaign would convince Americans outside their bubble that it was all Obama's Fault.<br /><br />And the Right's utter intransigence well... It's been part of the story of President Obama's elections in 2008 and 2012.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-4058416818170062532012-11-07T17:02:05.864-06:002012-11-07T17:02:05.864-06:00A great nation doesn't spend More than a Trill...A great nation doesn't spend <b>More than a Trillion a year</b> that it doesn't have, putting itself and its citizens in hock. That is a bipartisan problem.<br /><br />I think you give the House GOP too much credit. They are craven politicians. Power and money come before principles.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-89409567072539685642012-11-07T15:25:00.271-06:002012-11-07T15:25:00.271-06:00Silverfiddle,
I disagree with you on many issues ...Silverfiddle,<br /><br />I disagree with you on many issues but, I want a Great Nation. To me a Great Nation takes care of it's citizens and seeks justice. <br /><br />A Great Nation doesn't spend <b>More than a Trillion a year</b> on a bloated foreign empire. It doesn't have a lower tax rate on those who seek to hide their income in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. It doesn't reward Corporations that cheat on their taxes, which dismantle and send factories to China, and outsource jobs.<br /><br />President Obama has won Two elections decisively. <br /><br />This Nation needs to rebuild itself and turn inward. Will it or will Republicans and conservatives continue to call President Obama a Nazi Marxist a Gay Kenyan and a Terrorist Appeaser?<br /><br />Hopefully, I'm wrong. But, unfortunately, I think we know what most Right-Wingers will do. Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-38760816460585729802012-11-07T14:52:42.093-06:002012-11-07T14:52:42.093-06:00"This is a Liberal Country. A Center-Left Nat...<i>"This is a Liberal Country. A Center-Left Nation."</i><br /><br />Yes it is, and Obama needs to govern like it.<br /><br />I think you overestimate the House GOP. They are stuck. Trapped.<br /><br />They cannot block Obama's plans and must go along with more spending and more taxes. They will lose the majority in the mid terms if they don't. If we go off the fiscal cliff or technically default on our debt, their intransigence will be blamed.<br /><br />I predict they will return to their pre-1995 servile crouch and take their meager spoils as they go along to get along.<br /><br />Be of good cheer! Your progressive moment has arrived. Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.com