tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post1311893495122244359..comments2024-03-06T04:35:38.806-06:00Comments on Disaffected and it Feels So Good: A Good Guy with a Gun. No really, off-duty Cook County Deputy wins gun battleGrung_e_Genehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-69197301600714583752014-02-13T23:48:44.466-06:002014-02-13T23:48:44.466-06:00Actually, a law *could* have prevented this. Where...Actually, a law *could* have prevented this. Where did that 16 year old's gun come from? Well. It was stolen. It was stolen from someone's house while that person was at work. That's what studies show, the majority of guns used in crimes are handguns, and the majority were stolen. <br /><br />This is a crime that could have been avoided by a simple regulation requiring all guns to be secured in a gun safe when not being used or transported. A simple regulation that the NRA has fought tooth and nail every time someone has tried to implement it in any effective manner.<br /><br />As for the idiots claiming that we need guns to deal with an oppressive government, yeah right. Those are the same kinda dumbasses who insisted that Hitler instituted gun control (he didn't -- he *relaxed* gun controls that had existed for over a decade before he came to power, removing all regulations on ownership of long guns and allowing handgun ownership with a permit). We're dealing with the government of the U S of A here. They got the goddamned ATOMIC BOMB, for cryin' out loud. A buncha inbred billybobs with small calibre rifles are gonna take on the whole goddamned U.S. Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps? I don't *think* so! These fellers ain't the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, yo. Just sayin'.<br /><br />- Badtux the Well-Armed PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-74129503911602543002014-02-13T14:51:36.556-06:002014-02-13T14:51:36.556-06:00DERvish it's most assuredly not a feel good st...DERvish it's most assuredly not a feel good story. And yes addressing Socio-Economic problems is the way to combat this but, throwing a hundred million new guns into the mix is a surefire way to undermine almost any fixes we can think of or adopt.<br /><br />Ah ah ah, Chicken Hammer,<br /><br />You wrote "The law cannot prevent this."<br /><br />You did not write <i>sometimes</i> or <i>often</i> or <i>rarely</i> or any other qualifier you wrote "The law cannot prevent this."<br /> <br />Unequivocally. <br /><br />So yes you are in fact advocating for lawlessness.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-56709057276357895772014-02-13T14:21:54.041-06:002014-02-13T14:21:54.041-06:00GEG: ...we could get into the Socio-Economic Discu...<i>GEG: ...we could get into the Socio-Economic Discussion about why Mackey turned to crime at such a young age.</i><br /><br />We could, and we should, IMO. I would not say the killer was the "good guy with the gun". Not in the wrong to defend himself, but did he really need to shoot the young man dead? Perhaps he did, but I surely would not call this a "<a href="http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2482523/pg2" rel="nofollow">feel good story</a>", but a tragedy that this young man chose the wrong path, and now his family has to deal with the loss.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-41023276907444304012014-02-13T10:56:41.027-06:002014-02-13T10:56:41.027-06:00You do realize that in claiming the "law cann...<i>You do realize that in claiming the "law cannot prevent this" you are advocating that Law be eliminated? After all no law, in and of itself, can stop any criminal. So why have laws?</i><br /><br />Those are your words advocating the law be eliminated. A rational person knows the law is one layer of a multi-layer self defense.<br /><br />The law keeps most 16 year olds from carrying a gun. Deonta Dewight Mackey slipped through that layer but was stopped by another.ChickenHammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228053200668293249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-17736726284196586682014-02-13T10:06:23.029-06:002014-02-13T10:06:23.029-06:00Well, Anonymous I don't know how you can insul...Well, Anonymous I don't know how you can insult Tommy Dart after this. Cook County has only objected to 240 concealed carry permits. and CC is law in Illinois, but when you're a coward who wants to slander the Sheriff of the 3rd largest County in the Nation behind the cover of "Anon" I can't expect much better.<br /><br />Chickenhammer, <br /><br />You do realize that in claiming the "law cannot prevent this" you are advocating that Law be eliminated? After all no law, in and of itself, can stop any criminal. So why have laws?Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-69467240595370574862014-02-13T00:37:58.311-06:002014-02-13T00:37:58.311-06:00That's why we need concealed carry, because sh...That's why we need concealed carry, because shit like this Dart. I bet ol Harry Potter, Tom Dart never been in a situation before. I bet it's crimsons and clovers in Mt. Greenwood, huh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-39073809254987104032014-02-13T00:07:35.917-06:002014-02-13T00:07:35.917-06:00Sarge,
There is no legal way for a 16 year old to...Sarge,<br /><br />There is no legal way for a 16 year old to posses a handgun in the United States. The law cannot prevent this. The armed responder (the good guy with the gun) stopped the threat and took care of the problem.ChickenHammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228053200668293249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-17787745613065366152014-02-13T00:02:58.689-06:002014-02-13T00:02:58.689-06:00The off duty Cook County Sheriff Department Sergea...The off duty Cook County Sheriff Department Sergeant probably survived because of his training and his actively practicing self defense.<br /><br />Some people will make fun of someone who trains and practices on a regular basis. Some will call them paranoid and try to belittle them and the world they live in. The sergeant survived and one of the bad guys died.ChickenHammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228053200668293249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-54640326011491867182014-02-12T15:35:10.350-06:002014-02-12T15:35:10.350-06:00Sarge that is an excellent question. I'd like ...Sarge that is an excellent question. I'd like to see the ISP and CCSPD report on the shooting, info on the history of his gun, and known accomplices.<br /><br />Most of the guns used in crimes in Chicago come from outside Cook County.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-38774158619963221702014-02-12T14:44:24.413-06:002014-02-12T14:44:24.413-06:00Squaltlo,
The question is, "Where did that 1...Squaltlo, <br />The question is, "Where did that 16 year old hoodlum get the gun"? <br />We eliminate the sale of guns to children (with or without priors) and felons and our streets get safer. I am sorry to see a young man lose his life at age sixteen but that was a choice he made; not the cop... <br /><br />SargeSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14892211119418623595noreply@blogger.com