tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post1047352650266859129..comments2024-03-06T04:35:38.806-06:00Comments on Disaffected and it Feels So Good: New Black Panther Party Member Jonah Goldberg will beat you up to keep you from votingGrung_e_Genehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-29370088079128141552012-06-05T14:33:18.535-05:002012-06-05T14:33:18.535-05:00Nice comment J.O.B. Yeah, as I get older, I'm ...Nice comment J.O.B. Yeah, as I get older, I'm probably a better voter each time around. Not sure any specific age is as important as life events (e.g. homeownership, marriage, kids, etc.) and the realization of how those local races that most people don't research probably affects me as much, if not more so, than who I cast my Presidential vote for (especially in our non-swing state). But anyway, like you said, if they can serve, they can vote.ranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584685394945176255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-90311766154097710472012-06-05T12:16:14.764-05:002012-06-05T12:16:14.764-05:00Gene- It's funny that you mention the military...Gene- It's funny that you mention the military. Because when I go back and forth with my feelings on this issue. The one thing I always come back to is the Constitution. In the end, even though I don't agree with it (Ran brought up a good point however) the voting age has to stay at 18. I mean, how can we amend the Constitution to make the voting age 25. Then turn around and ask an 18 year old to join the service, and defend that same document.<br /><br />Ran- When I write about life experiences, I am speaking of my own. I am 36, and I know for a fact that I am a better voter than I was when I was 18. Of course, I'm sure there are plenty of 18 year old kids that are more educated today than I was, especially with computers in the fold. I am also willing to bet that there are plenty of 60 year old people that are complete f##king retards.<br /><br />All the evidence does point to the fact that Conservatives want to restrict voting age, just because they feel it would be less votes for Democrats.<br /><br />Me personally, I just think kids are wiser at 21. But like I said, if an 18 year old kid can defend my liberties, how can we tell that kid that he can not participate in the Democratic process.J.O.B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12180244268084796661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-85058180687495191322012-06-05T09:56:16.653-05:002012-06-05T09:56:16.653-05:00Considering some of the current batch of voter ID ...Considering some of the current batch of voter ID laws are working to disenfranchise military members from voting from abroad, I guess our troops don't qualify as the "Right" kind of voters.ranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584685394945176255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-75176576705088628432012-06-05T08:54:21.694-05:002012-06-05T08:54:21.694-05:00Oh ran don't worry the "Right" voter...Oh ran don't worry the "Right" voters don't join up for military service anyway.<br /><br />Let Us Never Forget the service Max Blumenthal did us when he showcased <a href="http://maxblumenthal.com/2007/07/171/#comments" rel="nofollow">Generation: Chickenhawk</a> The Unauthorized College Republican National Convention Tour.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-43239275816736260852012-06-05T08:19:26.635-05:002012-06-05T08:19:26.635-05:00I've seen many 18 year olds cast more informed...I've seen many 18 year olds cast more informed votes than many 60 year olds. Life experience closes as many minds as it opens.<br /><br />Regardless, any Constitutional amendment to raise the voting age should increase the minimum age for military service to match. If an 18 year old isn't mature enough to pick who'd be the better county board member, they're definitely not mature enough to serve.ranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10584685394945176255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-40645510947251692172012-06-05T07:43:55.469-05:002012-06-05T07:43:55.469-05:00J.O.B.
This is a prevelant argument amongst low-l...J.O.B.<br /><br />This is a prevelant argument amongst low-level GOP goons and conservative stooges today, <br /><br />"What I did when I was a kid, which is voting as a liberal. That’s what kids do — they don’t have life experience, and they just vote their feelings.”<br />New Hampshire House Speaker William O’ Brien, saying college students shouldn’t be allowed to vote because they vote liberal.<br /><br />This basically breaks down to 'Waaaaaah, stupid kids don't believe our full of shit arguments'<br /><br />If right-wingers would make better arguments than Obama is a Kenyan Marxist Usurper maybe they'd draw more votes. <br /><br />Until then all conservatives can do to win elections is to try and restrict voting to the "right" people.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-23220693485763704302012-06-04T22:08:08.926-05:002012-06-04T22:08:08.926-05:00Gene- I can not comment on Goldberg, because I don...Gene- I can not comment on Goldberg, because I don't really know him or his work.<br /><br />I do have to agree with him though. I do not like the fact that citizens are allowed to vote at 18.<br />It has nothing to do with how they vote, or whom they vote for. I just think they are too immature and have little to no life experience. Believe me, I know. When I was 18, I was completely retarded when it came to the world. And I graduated high school with a 3.6 GPA, but was still dumb. <br /><br />In my opinion, no amount of intelligence can replace life experience.J.O.B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12180244268084796661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-27956397808707541022012-06-04T20:29:45.861-05:002012-06-04T20:29:45.861-05:00Silverfiddle,
"Thanks" for the back-han...Silverfiddle,<br /><br />"Thanks" for the back-handed compliment. But, seriously the <i> I <3 Jonah Goldberg or R. Limpballs or Michele Bachmann for the way they get into liberals brains</i> is such a trite rhetorical device you employ when you don't have answer for the glaring issue.<br /><br />Which in this case is if any liberal had stated this, Bretibart, and the right-wing echo chamber would be running it up the fascist flagpole.<br /><br />Personally, I think a man such as yourself loathes Goldberg because he's pathetic but because he espouses the "right" ideas he's acceptable into the fold.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-66326430308886060772012-06-04T09:02:57.657-05:002012-06-04T09:02:57.657-05:00You know why I love Jonah Goldberg? Because he ge...You know why I love Jonah Goldberg? Because he gets the hooting loonies on the left hopping mad.<br /><br />And he has worked actually. He taught English in Eastern Europe and he was a researcher for Ben Wattenberg.<br /><br />He's also written some fine scholarly and copiously footnoted books which still have lefties screaming in anguish like the wicked witch at the end of The Wizard of Oz. Melting! Melting under a torrent of facts...<br /><br /><br />BTW, Gene, your writing has gotten much better lately. I still disagree with almost everything you say, but you're saying it so much better than you used to.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-293433952655399056.post-76724838277435845952012-06-03T21:43:37.552-05:002012-06-03T21:43:37.552-05:00"It is a simple fact of science that nothing ...<em>"It is a simple fact of science that nothing correlates more with ignorance and stupidity more than youth."</em><br /><br />I am a scientist, and no such fact exists. I can tell you this, however: there is a 100% correlation of <em>stupidity</em> with stupidity. Can I slug Jonah now?tomahttp://thumpandwhip.comnoreply@blogger.com